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Turkey managed to make one from scratch and has delivered first 100 in a month .
Uk us all talk no action
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Everyone interviewed is half asleep
Hoars nuclear weapons but not ventilators…
At least 100 different working prototype videos on YouTube right now. All at a low cost. Just search “ventilator prototypes” and marvel at how inept our leaders are. Those in power will only build you “their” ventilators, then lie and say the design is so complicated, and that you should pay thousands for a ridiculously simple device that simply blows air. Also look up the regular manual ventilators that work by hand and cost a few dollars.
The Whole World needs Ventilators. New York needs 30-50,000 Ventilators. Italy, Spain, need Ventilators. The Whole World needs Ventilators…
Wow only 5k ventilators in Britain….
Don’t want to know what we can’t do, but what we can, and what we have at hand to make it with. Windscreen wiper motors, bicycle parts, polythene bags and duct tape. Lots and lots of duct tape.
An Indian innovation under $200 offers solution for ventillator https://youtu.be/Y_92mDYfRGs
So there’s 10,000 ventilators been bought by the lovely government which my take a few weeks so they say. England’s hospitals has 8,000 ventilators. The population of England is 67+ million to date 2020. 18,000 Ventilator/67+ million people. Oh dear, I’m also sure they will all be going south.
Well fuck not all of england is gonna need a ventilator. Nor does all coronavirus patients need one.
don’t worry people Dyson going them is going to charge high prices like is hair dyrers and is making them for now is this country for now
Meanwhile AvE just assembles one out of common industrial parts.
…they have done NOTHING despite knowing at least a week ago… a long line of dead grandmas for an extra week then :(… so the MOD can manufacture a Nuclear Bomb… but can’t do the fiddly bits for a ventilator… do me a favour gov:(:(:(…
It’s also crazy for the effing B Johnson to refuse the offer of ventilators from the EU.
The economy and brexit is far more inportant than saving people’s lives as far as this crazy tory government are concerned.
BBC speaking shit. CR Clarke are making 100 a day
Drugs outsourced to China and India, medical supplies outsourced to China, ventilators outsourced to the nation likeliest to start a global pandemic ——- all brought to you by the corporate greed of companies that exported JOBS to nations with inadequate regulations.
Things need to change.
May I say to the this guy. Offer your technical drawing, CAD files, technical data and know how to the companies willing to manufacture them. The nation will thank you for this, don’t keep your IP to yourself at this critical time. An adequate motor or control board maybe sitting on the shelf at JLR or JCB, do the right thing. Engineers we can make a massive difference!
Grease Monkey , having worked in the pharma industry, it’s not a matter of sharing information and simply allowing others to start making equipment. Making anything within this industry is all about the mindset, many Companies try to get into pharma, most fail. Also, to be allowed to manufacture, you need to hold a licence, these are not given out without rigorous auditing and process validation. It would need a Company who holds a licence to sub contract manufacture and take responsibility for the end product QA/QC. Any issues with the manufacture would put the licence at risk.
Whilst your comments are noble and well intentioned, you need to have experience in the industry to understand the complexity behind manufacture, this is what makes products safe (and increases manufacturing costs). It’s not about IP protection, and simply making huge profit.
The fellow speaking is a naysayer. That’s what innovation is, proving everyone else wrong. If it looked possible someone would have already done it. We will develop our own parts and we’ll do it by bringing new expertise in-house for these specific knowledge sets. It won’t happen over night but it will happen. Never say something can not be done.
The BBC is a defacto progressive political party
Ask China to lend you some of theirs. After all the virus came from there and they claim its over.
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No, they do not. Unlike you, they’re not making stupid statements like that. China recognises it is a dangerous pandemic and may well return to China. They are keeping all there security measures in place for a very long time.
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Building by hand during WW2 Americans produced a 4 engine B24 heavy bomber every 15 minutes. Certainly, the UK managed similar feats! That factory floor with only a few people working and no government orders tell the whole story. Modern Day incompetence, constipation, and bureaucracy!
So true. Sadly a lot of people are going to die because of this incompetence.
Air pumps from NBC suits as used in military and industry could work in combination with hoods to help patients breathe easier…
Compare the expensive and high quality stuff made by OES Medical and the silly plastic contraption made by Nick Grey and G-Tech.
G-Tech should stick to making vacuum cleaners, though they are lousy as it is.
When your life depends on it, you won’t turn your nose up.
It’s just a controlled air pressure coming in and going out of a mask. G-Tech engineers will save lives, as will the other teams.
You don’t know the damage that would be done if people all saw things your way
If jcb or rolls royce produce thousands of ventilators its going to put all these small medical supply companies out of business
UK, you’re gonna need about 400,000 ventilators. I don’t accept this defeatist news, so I’m turning it off now! FIGURE IT OUT!
BULLSHIT. Here is a company who believe they can make 1000 ventilators per day… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqWiykx1dTM
As of 22/3/2020.
Number of cases / deaths:
– Germany – 22,364 / 84
– UK – 5,018 / 233
Why is this not a scandal of administration incompetence.
They do this now. They should have done this months ago.
What are you a Back Seat Quarterback?
How many patients can draw from 1 ventilator? Would it be quicker a adapt existing machines .you’re comments please😷
I heard that China uses one machine for 2 patients. I don’t have any reliable source on it
Ventilators are no good without competent people to operate them. Caring for patients on ventilators is complex, expensive. Buy the NHS a million more ventilators now and it won’t make much difference because you can’t magic more staff to operate them.
China trained people to operate them in a couple of days. They don’t have medical negligence lawyers in China I imagine
Exactly! Bollocks!! Give them a crash course! They are doctors, and surgeons and other specialists!! And if they do a 50% job a ICU intensavist could do then it WILL make a massive difference!
They just get admin staff using them with a crash course in training
NEVER MIND US WHAT IS THE THIRD WORLD GOING TO DO THATS WHERE THE VIRUS EXPLODES
TV I have a feeling there will be a war over this… The world At least USA, Britan and Australia and France and Germany are going to hold China responsible for the deaths in there countries. It will start with harsh tarrifs on china and since the USA provides 80% of there Grain they will starve. Then China will be dumb and try something in the China sea against Taiwan or something and then China will be blown away!
@Conan and thanks to the losers running this world they are stocked up on tanks and bombs but nothing important
Perish because we all have our own problems to help thanks to the China Virus.
The UK is a third world country ruled by an elite 1%. Look at the state of it. Rule by populism, slogans, propaganda, crap healthcare system, incredible equality, incompetent and corrupt politicians …
@Captain Obvious it also shows they never had any thing planned for something like this this world is pretty fucked
Fckn BBC make everything about race
“Nothing’s been ordered”
@Alexander James2020! You need an electric motor with gearing to drive an air pump and you need enriched oxygen, either from a main supply or using a device to enrich atmospheric oxygen, which works by pressurising and depressurising it through a crystal back and forth. Then you need some sensors and you can use a mobile phone to work as your screen and controller. Basically i think that chap sounded like a bit suspect as well. The most problematic side of it is normally the regs and paperwork.
Why would you buy anything from this guy when there are loads of other British companies who can put one together in a couple of weeks…
Ianmundo probably because he is likely to be a profiteer and quoted unreasonably! If mclaran can get their heads around it and let’s face it if we ORDERED companies in the field to manufacture consonants! We should be doing so! He is likely to be miffed at his time of maximum profit making that BIG companies have been asked to fulfil their manufacture
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If anyone over 40 years old thinks they’re going to get on a ventilator they’re living in cloud cuckoo land!
way to go geraint, that is just what i needed to hear.
This is what happens when you have allowed your manufacturing to go off shore, and who is responsible for that?
Its impossible for one single country to own the whole supply chain. Even China can’t do it. It will continue to be a collaboration between various countries and regions.
What, you think the government should interfere in private business decisions and prevent companies from sourcing the parts they like 😂? Is that how we keep it on shore? You’re clearly an employee and a small minded communist one at that.
Rex Stout tell me where, has enough PPE for all front line staff indefinitely in to the future! We quite clearly need more even I hasten to add for the general population to reduce exposure! But don’t worry ffp3 masks don’t protect you as the media has had us believe for the last two months!
Rex Stout it’s a impossible ask to BUY all available ventilators from around the world that the world need! I know this because it’s obvious! This kit isn’t all just sat there waiting to be bought in the millions of units! If they were there wouldn’t be a worldwide issue getting them! We have to quite clearly massively up the manufacture of these items!
@Alexander James2020! How the fuck would you know if it’s an impossible task.
Other countries will manage to manufacture the necessary kit. We on the other hand don’t even have enough PPE for front line staff.
B..S! Government officials are to busy the lining their pockets 🤔🤬😡
Ireland is getting hundreds of ventilators, ordered weeks ago. In addition to massively increasing testing and closing schools over a week ago.
But then again, Ireland clearly values lives over economics. Can’t say the same for UK.
it also helps that half the ventilators for ICUs, in the world are made here in ireland. thats a fact i didint know before this thing started. you are right, its the huge increase in testing that will stand to us.
Why are you trying to SCARE the nation you irresponsible arseholes! If you BBC idiots keep at it don’t be surprised if citizens decide to cancel their TV Licence D/Debit while we’re on lockdown as punishment……and we might just decide to only pay you 80% of your inflated wages 😡
Perhaps we can put some of the BBC employees to help out rather than panic the nation. Will there be a tv tax rebate. I mean how is the BBC going to justify taking money from people in these times.
@Mark Hosford of course couldn’t care less about the flu
What ?
Youre worried about your tv licence fee ?
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Nothing from the government ! So Boris is giving bullshits in the news.
In chaina they trained nurses within couple of days how to use ventilator……..and you need how many moths???🤔🤔🤔
@Captain Obvious hope so. im no expert.stay safe.
@Jerry O Sullivan no, just the diaphragm really, not the lungs.
All that’s needed is a pump, oxygen inlet and a few sensors. Mechanics make it happen all the time on cars. If you think engineers can’t figure out how to build a simple air pump in this modern age, you should ask them how difficult is it to make a pump work with extra oxygen.
It’s like telling a chef “can you bake a good cake”. To you it may be mysterious. But to him, it’s everyday work. It is not complicated to the point of impossibility, that’s why over a thousand firms have reached out to help just in the UK alone. It’s not that hard.
Someone could probably build it as a project if they had a bit of programming skill and the resources
The NHS is too unionised. Each group of workers is its own special interest group. They want all nurses to have degrees. In China if you are told to do something you do it or you end up in the gulag
@Alexander James2020! no. the ” rest ” are not our teachers, anyway i think we have enough. we have a certain number of qualified operators. that may be a limiting factor for all.
@Alexander James2020! the manafacturing plants have been running 24/7 since xmass. i know we sent a team to UK last week, about setting up, when they seemed to change their minds about things, accerdation inspectors also. havent heard a word from them since.
This lazy, slow manufacturer is disturbing also why would other companies need to design their own ventilators anyway? This is an emergency! Government should issue one spesific design and everybody should produce it and the prices and licesences can be handled later.
@spaceycakey1987 you are right and i am really sorry for what i said on my post. i was a bit off in my post, i had just come from another site where i seemed to have stumbeled into the UK AGM of the KKK. you are dead right of course, and im sure all those brilliant companys will do just great and have really good people and will organize this like war production. stay safe.
@Jerry O Sullivan they might be but the guy said he had a parts shortage to build them those companies like rolls royce and jcb dont need to make the ventilator but they might be able to produce like the electric motor or the screen if there all working off the same blueprint they might even be able to make other parts that small companies cant make and they have the ability of mass scale manufacture they can then be made up by more specialist companies thats the problem most of the parts are made elsewear and the whole world is buying up ventilators its the electronics and software that make them high tech even if they cant make them as good as modern ventilators anything that helps has to be better than nothing no country can provide enough for the world at the moment
god, the lot of you, what are you five. we make half the worlds ICU ventilators here in the ROI. they are not bloody billows. they are heigh tec bits of kit. this is rocket science. educate some of the next generation in UK to, aspire to do something, other than sell financial services.
We don’t need top notch units with fancy screens etc. Bloke in the factory clearly missing the point. If we cannot make a thing which forces oxygen into someone’s lungs then god help us.
Why are there not hundreds of people in that place making the poxy things, Dave & Keith don’t seem to be cutting it in that very lonely factory ! Crazy
Here’s an idea, we could buy second hand ventilators from China. They might have a surplus now.
Bro, you truly didn’t know your country has been such a nasty asshole to China for decades? How many millions of dollars you have spent to try to destabilise China through your NGOs in HK.
Show us some dignity pls. China do have a lot of ventilators, 20 times more than USA have, but there are so many poor third world countries needs more help than you rich Europeans. China has sponsored 84 countries all over the world. Spare some hope of living to the poor nations pls, mighty UK.
Marcus Hill not a good idea infections try getting to China also they still need them
Did you know the original meaning of the word “government” is mind control? Have a look at the website https://www.doitinhebrew.com/ type in the word government and you will get the Hebrew word מֶמְשָׁלָה – copy and paste this word and you will get the English word government and the meaning of this word – to delude, to deceive, to raise false hopes.
Man made virus is achieving it’s goal, reducing the population in our over crowded world, it’s to late for ventilators
This will single handily reverse 30 years of climate change in 12 months!! Imagine the difference it will make! If we can do the basics and keep food supplies up, people eat healthier and quit smoking and be encouraged to make multitudes of lifestyle changes too suppress this virus it will save trillions into the future and effectively RESET things to a great extent.
Collette Post it will also change the balance of power and a lot of countries are going to be angry and will look for the responsible party and take the mesures they think will avoid another pandemic like this in the future
please try to be helpful.
It’s changing everything especially no planes cruise ships, fewer cars and public transport plus no bars, pubs, clubs, restaurants, cafes, cinemas etc shut it will make hopefully people change
david james This! Virus will not reduce the population at all whatsoever… 0.5% is hardly reducing the population when the birth rate is much higher, it is however changing life for most humans on Earth ! It’s very sad …
IF ONLY THE SHIT HOLE SCUMCRUD AMERICAN MEDICAL ASSHOLE/ASSOCIATION WERE ACTUALLY CONCERNED ABOUT LIFE, HEALTH AND SAFETY PROTECTIONS INSTEAD OF ENSURING THERE JOBS WITH CAUSING CANCER IN PEOPLETHEY A HYPOCRATIC OATH TO TREAT WITHOUT HARM. RIGHT NOW DOCTOR QUALIFIES FOR THE SALVATION OF JESUS CHRIST FOR ALL THE MURDER THEY COMMIT DAILY.
Well I can’t believe all the advancements in Medicine and no vaccine but Big Pharma care more about Stock market profits and other ideas how great single payer healthcare or not we suppose to be already in the next level I’m a engineer and I tell you I experience first Hand how politics and Money is blocking advancement when is profitable it is put on the market it is not well we don’t care or will be set in a later time and this is nothing new for me Medicine is in the same level . So long this mentality is not changing nothing will but this Coronavirus is the warning and the biggest shock for the world now we need solution and in the future we need to have the opportunity that the next Generations not experience this again . The Government in the world are just waking up to this and I hope the citizens in the U.K. Or in the rest world start to see what it is the Government whatever party it is are failing and no idea how to fix this talking around don’t fix anything fact and actions fix this time is the biggest factor now and you better do something before is to late so China is criticized yes communist and whatever problem there is and there is no perfect system but this Virus is changing how we think and it will have consequences so be Aware in the moment critics have no place in this Pandemic just Solution are speaking to the world the rest is just a waist of time!!!!
@Collette Post no, this is about ordinary, bog standard, animal husbandry rules. garden varity. both here in the ROI and in the UK, you would get a thousand years in jail if you tried to have anything like the “wet markets” in china.
It sure is about climate change animals giving humans viruses they Pass to each other is scary indeed
MrPorquoipas your an idiot , Capitalism has created the modern world. ‘F’ fail go back to school you muppet.
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Anyone else notice they cut when the guy clearly hadn’t finished his sentence? “It could be b….”
Latest videos now That’s the BBC for you. Seen it many times before…
The only reason the UK numbers are so low it’s because they have not started testing their people. The UK, like any other 3rd world country, is woefully behind everyone else. These rubes even elected a bumbling idiot to be their Prime Minister who is even worse than Dumbass Trump.
@Hansie’s Ma Feck off! I live in the US, and you live in a 3rd world little island who will soon be on it’s hands and knees begging the EU for a BREXIT extension. LOLz
Hansie’s Ma what weeds did you pull and when were you at Porton Down
Hansie’s Ma The ones in the backies
@Vince Campbell Really? Which trees have you trimmed?
Do you work for the BBC
Call Dyson.
Collette Post I already knew tbh, was just making a point! He moved to a country that respects and encourages innovate thinking and enterprise! They are doing particularly well through this unsurprisingly
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-46962093
Collette Post where did his factory move too?
Alexander James2020! He was because now his factory is shut whereas in the UK he could repurpose to make things needed during this crisis
Collette Post he wasn’t particularly stupid for making a business decision… maybe the population here that criticise GOOD companies making big profits are to blame! We wanna complain about their tax breaks but want them back when we need them! Double standards!
The Government haven’t a clue. Clearly more ventilators are needed but mass testing is needed, not 25,000 , not 50,000, but 100,000 per day, to focus the efforts of the NHS.
@California Dreamin’ we need marshall law. Everyone staying inside unless they are proven to be without the virus and their whole household too. Groceries can get ordered online. Send the soldiers and police on the streets. Close all borders.
m Testing will focus NHS resources. I understand the fortunate will have mild symptoms. 10 minute antibody tests will confirm this. Massive testing is needed. Idiots panic buying, going from supermarket to supermarket to avoid supermarket restrictions on no more than 3 items, are spreading the virus which they might live long enough to regret. If a 35 year old Chinese doctor can die from this virus, anyone can die. Darwin gave this a name…..Natural Selection.
@California Dreamin’ they tell you to stay at home if you test positive. That’s it. Might as well do it now, no need to test. Just assume you have the virus.
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You know more than the WHO !! How do you think China and South Korea, South Korea !! , got a grip on this virus ? Of course staying isolated is an important part of this pandemic, but it is the “Everyman for himself” approach. The government need to place investment into testing and more ventilators, but mass testing will enable focussed effort.
forget testing. everyone needs to stay at home. We are long past the time to test.
I’m upset that exam boards will use our predicted and mock grades as a main grades.
I wanted to get A or B.
I didn’t work at hard in mock but I got c and my target grade is a D for some reason.
@Marcus Hill well said.
@CinnE well said, and good for you, offering helpful advice to that young person. a lot of posters on these threads use them to vent and troll.
Your potential great grades will cost you hard and poor quality of life, debt and a job unworthy of your previous efforts. I hope you believe in deeds, not words, or you’ll have plenty regrets later in life. Get a grip my young friend.
Niknoks hopefully, it works out.
Marcus Hill Irony I’m 41 too scared about this virus and I didn’t pass but did a bit of distance learning and found it fun I think the students should’ve been allowed to do exams online in May/June and anyone ill another time and have resits in September get extra staff to deal with the work and marking.
67 Million Population, annual mortality rate of 600,000 from natural causes and 144 deaths from virus…mass media frenzy and Hedge Funds making Billions shorting the markets and ruining peoples pensions is the real story
@Anthony Burke something in them seems to enjoy abusing annonimity , im sure someone is doing their doctorate describing it as syndrome,,, something.
@Die Gestive Do u think vaccines are safe?
urbanimage no shit Sherlock
@David Wright my comment was deleted. BBC cant cope with truth.
weaverspell I don’t read any tabloid newspapers.. I look at people buy “newspapers “with pity … not all conspiracy theories are tin foil jobs .. u follow the media and government blindly then you’re a fool ..in the nicest possible way
Cut back Tories cut back Tories and yes cut back tories thanks for 2008 and now this
Triumph OnTour Not that difficult to make NAZ look stupid though, to be fair.
Jigsaw John powerful reply.. love it
Naz R What an imbecile. Please remind us all who were in power in 2008?! Or is that too grown up a question for you.
Don’t race. We Chinese will donate millions of the machines to you if you quit NATO.
NATO gonna fuck you up! 🖕
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@Christian Zavala capitalist usa is kept on toes by chomsky.
@mohinder kumar put your tin foil hat on
@Christian Zavala May b USA lab caused!
People are now dying at a more rapid rate because we are reaching capacity.
Germany has 28,000 ICU beds and the UK has 5,000 ICU beds.
Germany = 18,328 infected and 52 dead. – The UK = 3,269 infected and 184 dead!
…That’s 10 years of cuts, closures and outsourcing for you.
You cannot compare numbers of infected as each country has vastly different numbers of people being tested.
Germany is mass testing so it is also testing asymptomatic and mild cases, therefore the lower death rate.
The UK is testing the cases that are hospitalised ….
the real stats will be accurate when we mass test the whole population with the antibody test…
Stay safe everyone!
@Shoeless Joe What I do know is that you have been reading too much Noam Chomsky and you are probably a staunch socialist. You said it yourself – the ‘rate of increase is decreasing’. The absolute budget is increasing, even when factored for inflation. You can cut it however you want, rising cost per treatment, rising cost of drugs, rising inefficiency, monopolies. But it does not deter from the fact that the absolute budget has increased.
@Shoeless Joe I had no idea that that is what I suggested. When I read my words again, they equally suggest nothing of the sort. The figures you quote aren’t accurate either. You’ve got less deaths for Germany and more deaths than there are for UK. And a ratio of 55,000 cases vs 170+ deaths is not comparatively bad!
@Hansie’s Ma You’re suggesting the virus in Germany consciously targeted 18,328 young people? .. Seems like a highly speculative argument to me.