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It doesn’t work practically…..
It’s saving my grandpa as we speak but he will be off of it tommorow
The ventilators simply extend the life of a dying person another couple of days. How do I know this?
Simply analyze the real cause of CV19 deaths. If your body is as described before you catch CV19 then you are going to die :
1 Over 65
2 Heart problems
3 History asthma
4 diabetes
5 bad diet, bad gut, over weight
6 taking drugs
7 alcoholic
8 Any of the above causes compromised immune system.
So hooking up a CV19 patient with one or more of the above to a ventilator – is lik,e hooking up a corpse to a ventilator. So the answer is NOT to make more ventilators. The answer is to stop these:
1 Monsanto
2 FDA
3 Big Pharma
4 Allow Victory Gardens
5 Educate all ages about Nutrition.
6 Never hire doctors who lie for profit, resulting in deaths like Foucci !!!!
Ventilators aren’t working for these patients according to Dr. Kyle – Sidell. He said they appear to have “altitude illness” due to an unexplainable lack of oxygen. Other more gentle methods need to be examined. What about hyperbaric oxygen tanks? Is the oxygen supplementation making a difference? What antibiotics are being given? Nobody addresses the real questions in these videos. 5G absorbs our oxygen too and it’s definitely in hospitals and on cruise ships. Joe Imbriano is an expert on the technology. I know there’s a lot of sick people who feel the hospitals are death traps right now and would rather take their chances at home! If any of you are sick, Drink a gallon of water a day, use steam, Take high doses of Zinc, Vitamin C, Elderberry, Selenium – it’s in Brazil Nuts/Tuna , drink Apple cider vinegar, Stay active and sweat. Breathe in eucalyptus through a humidifier and oil diffuser. Get some black tourmaline, shungite, hematite to keep around you. Turn off your WiFi and your cell phone. Do not get anything 5G. Please sign my petition to Stop 5G worldwide! Change.org/Stop5GWorldwide
Angelia Kay I have been coughing and my ankles swelled up with fluid and I keep swallowing as if I have a hypersensitivity with the immune system but I am not panicking and staying home and drinking Green tea healthy foods and vitamins and reading my Bible God bless you
Angelia Kay Thank you
So we been killing patients all along by throwing them on vents.
Good job WHO and CDC
Now we are getting reports of the opposite. Ventilators ensure a higher possibility of death from the CV
NBC:
Why some doctors are moving away from ventilators for virus patients
Some hospitals have reported unusually high death rates for COVID-19 patients on ventilators, and some doctors worry that the machines could be doing harm.
Medics Fighting Coronavirus Inside Hospital de Sant Pau
A ventilator stands next to a patient’s bed in the ICU ward at the Sant Pau hospital in Barcelona April 2, 2020.Angel Garcia / Bloomberg via Getty Images
April 9, 2020, 3:11 PM CEST
By Associated Press
As health officials around the world push to get more ventilators to treat coronavirus patients, some doctors are moving away from using the breathing machines when they can.
The reason: Some hospitals have reported unusually high death rates for coronavirus patients on ventilators, and some doctors worry that the machines could be harming certain patients.
Full coverage of the coronavirus outbreak
The evolving treatments highlight the fact that doctors are still learning the best way to manage a virus that emerged only months ago. They are relying on anecdotal, real-time data amid a crush of patients and shortages of basic supplies.
Mechanical ventilators push oxygen into patients whose lungs are failing. Using the machines involves sedating a patient and sticking a tube into the throat. Deaths in such sick patients are common, no matter the reason they need the breathing help.
New York braces for grim week as need for medical supplies increases
Generally speaking, 40 percent to 50 percent of patients with severe respiratory distress die while on ventilators, experts say. But 80 percent or more of coronavirus patients placed on the machines in New York City have died, state and city officials say.
Higher-than-normal death rates also have been reported elsewhere in the U.S., said Dr. Albert Rizzo, the American Lung Association’s chief medical officer.
Similar reports have emerged from China and the United Kingdom. One U.K. report put the figure at 66 percent. A very small study in Wuhan, the Chinese city where the disease first emerged, said 86 percent died.
The reason is not clear. It may have to do with what kind of shape the patients were in before they were infected. Or it could be related to how sick they had become by the time they were put on the machines, some experts said.
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But some health professionals have wondered whether ventilators might actually make matters worse in certain patients, perhaps by igniting or worsening a harmful immune system reaction.
That’s speculation. But experts do say ventilators can be damaging to a patient over time, as high-pressure oxygen is forced into the tiny air sacs in a patient’s lungs.
“We know that mechanical ventilation is not benign,” said Dr. Eddy Fan, an expert on respiratory treatment at Toronto General Hospital. “One of the most important findings in the last few decades is that medical ventilation can worsen lung injury — so we have to be careful how we use it.”
The dangers can be eased by limiting the amount of pressure and the size of breaths delivered by the machine, Fan said.
But some doctors say they’re trying to keep patients off ventilators as long as possible, and turning to other techniques instead.
Only a few weeks ago in New York City, coronavirus patients who came in quite sick were routinely placed on ventilators to keep them breathing, said Dr. Joseph Habboushe, an emergency medicine doctor who works in Manhattan hospitals.
But increasingly, physicians are trying other measures first. One is having patients lie in different positions — including on their stomachs — to allow different parts of the lung to aerate better. Another is giving patients more oxygen through nose tubes or other devices. Some doctors are experimenting with adding nitric oxide to the mix, to help improve blood flow and oxygen to the least damaged parts of the lungs.
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“If we’re able to make them better without intubating them, they are more likely to have a better outcome — we think,” Habboushe said.
He said those decisions are separate from worries that there are not enough ventilators available. But that is a concern as well, Habboushe added.
There are widespread reports that coronavirus patients tend to be on ventilators much longer than other kinds of patients, said Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious diseases expert at Vanderbilt University.
Experts say that patients with bacterial pneumonia, for example, may be on a ventilator for no more than a day or two. But it’s been common for coronavirus patients to have been on a ventilator “seven days, 10 days, 15 days, and they’re passing away,” said New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, when asked about ventilator death rates during a news briefing on Wednesday.
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That’s one reason for worries that ventilators could grow in short supply. Experts worry that as cases mount, doctors will be forced to make terrible decisions about who lives and who dies because they won’t have enough machines for every patient who needs one.
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New York State Health Commissioner Dr. Howard Zucker said Wednesday that officials are looking into other possible therapies that can be given earlier, but added “that’s all experimental.”
The new virus is a member of the coronavirus family that can cause colds as well as more serious illnesses. Health officials say it spreads mainly from droplets when an infected person coughs or sneezes. There is no proven drug treatment or vaccine against it.
Experts think most people who are infected suffer nothing worse than unpleasant but mild illnesses that may include fever and coughing.
But roughly 20 percent — many of them older adults or people weakened by chronic conditions — can grow much sicker. They can have trouble breathing and suffer chest pain. Their lungs can become inflamed, causing a dangerous condition called acute respiratory distress syndrome. An estimated 3 percent to 4 percent may need ventilators.
“The ventilator is not therapeutic. It’s a supportive measure while we wait for the patient’s body to recover,” said Dr. Roger Alvarez, a lung specialist with the University of Miami Health System in Florida, who is a leader in the effort to use nitric oxide to keep patients off ventilators for as long as possible.
Zachary Shemtob said he was “absolutely terrified” when he was told his 44-year-old husband, David, needed to be put on a ventilator at NYU Langone last month after becoming infected with the virus.
“Needing to be ventilated might mean never getting off the ventilator,” he said.
Shemtob said the hospital did not give any percentages on survival, but he got the impression it was essentially a coin flip. He looked up the rates only after his husband was breathing on his own six days later.
“A coin flip was generous it seems,” he said.
But Shemtob noted cases vary.
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I can’t breath after watching the video
you all need to read up on oxygen toxicity to understand why ventilators are not great for our health
Breathlessness is contraindicated for oxygen administration- not to be prescribed for breathlessness- look it up
The lungs are a wet system
Medical oxygen has only 67ppm of water contamination
The lungs require 100% humidity- that’s saturated air
The lungs are collecting water not oxygen
That’s the medical misdirect!
The RBCs are loading water not oxygen
Lungs perform a Rehydration process and maintain blood pressure
Just need to think about how effective humidifiers are with salt and iodine
In comparison to oxygen
Humidifiers have no side effects
While oxygen supplementation can be deadly
Premi babies were put into 100% oxygen tents and had their lungs injured and they were blinded – all from oxygen’s power to dehydrate.
The babies eyes dried up – our eyes give up moisture (foggy glasses) and take in moisture from the environment.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4925834/
We are a salt water system
Salty blood, sweat, tears, urine
A saline iv can replace blood lost.
Oxygen is a manufactured product – very very very dry compressed air.
Jane Threes wow very interesting I am not medical like yourself but it just seems scary to me all these people being put in a coma and on ventilators
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/why-some-doctors-are-moving-away-ventilators-virus-patients-n1179986
NBC:
Why some doctors are moving away from ventilators for virus patients
Some hospitals have reported unusually high death rates for COVID-19 patients on ventilators, and some doctors worry that the machines could be doing harm.
Medics Fighting Coronavirus Inside Hospital de Sant Pau
A ventilator stands next to a patient’s bed in the ICU ward at the Sant Pau hospital in Barcelona April 2, 2020.Angel Garcia / Bloomberg via Getty Images
April 9, 2020, 3:11 PM CEST
By Associated Press
As health officials around the world push to get more ventilators to treat coronavirus patients, some doctors are moving away from using the breathing machines when they can.
The reason: Some hospitals have reported unusually high death rates for coronavirus patients on ventilators, and some doctors worry that the machines could be harming certain patients.
Full coverage of the coronavirus outbreak
The evolving treatments highlight the fact that doctors are still learning the best way to manage a virus that emerged only months ago. They are relying on anecdotal, real-time data amid a crush of patients and shortages of basic supplies.
Mechanical ventilators push oxygen into patients whose lungs are failing. Using the machines involves sedating a patient and sticking a tube into the throat. Deaths in such sick patients are common, no matter the reason they need the breathing help.
New York braces for grim week as need for medical supplies increases
Generally speaking, 40 percent to 50 percent of patients with severe respiratory distress die while on ventilators, experts say. But 80 percent or more of coronavirus patients placed on the machines in New York City have died, state and city officials say.
Higher-than-normal death rates also have been reported elsewhere in the U.S., said Dr. Albert Rizzo, the American Lung Association’s chief medical officer.
Similar reports have emerged from China and the United Kingdom. One U.K. report put the figure at 66 percent. A very small study in Wuhan, the Chinese city where the disease first emerged, said 86 percent died.
The reason is not clear. It may have to do with what kind of shape the patients were in before they were infected. Or it could be related to how sick they had become by the time they were put on the machines, some experts said.
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But some health professionals have wondered whether ventilators might actually make matters worse in certain patients, perhaps by igniting or worsening a harmful immune system reaction.
That’s speculation. But experts do say ventilators can be damaging to a patient over time, as high-pressure oxygen is forced into the tiny air sacs in a patient’s lungs.
“We know that mechanical ventilation is not benign,” said Dr. Eddy Fan, an expert on respiratory treatment at Toronto General Hospital. “One of the most important findings in the last few decades is that medical ventilation can worsen lung injury — so we have to be careful how we use it.”
The dangers can be eased by limiting the amount of pressure and the size of breaths delivered by the machine, Fan said.
But some doctors say they’re trying to keep patients off ventilators as long as possible, and turning to other techniques instead.
Only a few weeks ago in New York City, coronavirus patients who came in quite sick were routinely placed on ventilators to keep them breathing, said Dr. Joseph Habboushe, an emergency medicine doctor who works in Manhattan hospitals.
But increasingly, physicians are trying other measures first. One is having patients lie in different positions — including on their stomachs — to allow different parts of the lung to aerate better. Another is giving patients more oxygen through nose tubes or other devices. Some doctors are experimenting with adding nitric oxide to the mix, to help improve blood flow and oxygen to the least damaged parts of the lungs.
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“If we’re able to make them better without intubating them, they are more likely to have a better outcome — we think,” Habboushe said.
He said those decisions are separate from worries that there are not enough ventilators available. But that is a concern as well, Habboushe added.
There are widespread reports that coronavirus patients tend to be on ventilators much longer than other kinds of patients, said Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious diseases expert at Vanderbilt University.
Experts say that patients with bacterial pneumonia, for example, may be on a ventilator for no more than a day or two. But it’s been common for coronavirus patients to have been on a ventilator “seven days, 10 days, 15 days, and they’re passing away,” said New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, when asked about ventilator death rates during a news briefing on Wednesday.
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That’s one reason for worries that ventilators could grow in short supply. Experts worry that as cases mount, doctors will be forced to make terrible decisions about who lives and who dies because they won’t have enough machines for every patient who needs one.
Download the NBC News app for full coverage of the coronavirus outbreak
New York State Health Commissioner Dr. Howard Zucker said Wednesday that officials are looking into other possible therapies that can be given earlier, but added “that’s all experimental.”
The new virus is a member of the coronavirus family that can cause colds as well as more serious illnesses. Health officials say it spreads mainly from droplets when an infected person coughs or sneezes. There is no proven drug treatment or vaccine against it.
Experts think most people who are infected suffer nothing worse than unpleasant but mild illnesses that may include fever and coughing.
But roughly 20 percent — many of them older adults or people weakened by chronic conditions — can grow much sicker. They can have trouble breathing and suffer chest pain. Their lungs can become inflamed, causing a dangerous condition called acute respiratory distress syndrome. An estimated 3 percent to 4 percent may need ventilators.
“The ventilator is not therapeutic. It’s a supportive measure while we wait for the patient’s body to recover,” said Dr. Roger Alvarez, a lung specialist with the University of Miami Health System in Florida, who is a leader in the effort to use nitric oxide to keep patients off ventilators for as long as possible.
Zachary Shemtob said he was “absolutely terrified” when he was told his 44-year-old husband, David, needed to be put on a ventilator at NYU Langone last month after becoming infected with the virus.
“Needing to be ventilated might mean never getting off the ventilator,” he said.
Shemtob said the hospital did not give any percentages on survival, but he got the impression it was essentially a coin flip. He looked up the rates only after his husband was breathing on his own six days later.
“A coin flip was generous it seems,” he said.
But Shemtob noted cases vary. His husband is relatively young.
“David is living proof that they can really save lives, and how incredibly important they are,” Shemtob said.
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The coranvirus does 3 main things:
1). It covers up the 5G side effects on the body.
2). Population control
3). Destroys the monetary system and ushers in a cashless society.
You forget to mention have everyone ready to line up for the Vaccine like they’re buying iPhone 19
They Put you in a SEMI COMA
to put you on a Ventilator.
VENTILATORS are NOT a CURE.
Need MEDICINE, NOT Machines
they basically kill people.
Mantul…
looks terrifying to me I’d rather take my chances with the virus
@Andrea Carol Taylor
Why shouldn’t she everyone on/TV said they had no symptoms
@Buraq Gameshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEwEUE8dPE8 oh yes I should watch this latest study from China
You shouldn’t
I cant’ help but notice that lots of people put on these ventilators are dying, the research in China was 80% died on them so how can you say they are saving lives. I am no expert but I believe proper old fashioned nursing care would save more lives, and I am just wondering are they using them so much because health systems cant’ cope with all these cases. Germany’s death rate is very low because they have more nurses to look after people and keep an eye on these dangerous machines. Keep an eye on the death rates in the countries without thousands of ventilators such as India and Pakistan which are having very low death rates.
Germany hasn’t lot of nurses in opposite but they discourage patients to go the doctor or the hospital!
@Hood atheist Respiratory Ventilators are killers. 86 % of all patients died in Wuhan, 80 % in New York who were put on a ventilator with Corona-Virus! Instead use Drugs like Diamox (Acetazolamide) and treatments like pure oxygen! Drugs like Diamox (Acetazolamide) and treatments like pure oxygen will help against Corona-Virus . Diamox Tablet
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@Hood atheist Iron lung is the best weapon to fight Corona-Virus with exhaling assistance!
@Hood atheist Old fashioned nursing like they gave to Boris they wouldn’t dare put him on a ventilator.
Proper old fashioned nursing, don’t know what that means, but You are right about the percentage of people dieing on the ventilators. They have no other method once the lungs need air, it is the last resort. I say that they give the patients who are at risk to die clinical trials medication to combat the deaths. It’s either that or people will continue to die.
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The earth can sustain just 400 million of humans, but we are 7 billion (7.000.000.000)!!!!…maybe this epidemic it is not so bad after all… especially if I remain alive after this wave passes 🙂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S31CvyijKYk <<<< not according to this video
80% of patients who go on the ventilator stay on it according to “President Cuomo”.
The vents killing them, wrong treatment plan worked for their agenda
@Loki_Cane_Corso_ Italiano 😖
About 75 percent don’t get off, because they will die. 😔
Seems like everyone put on a ventilator and induced coma dies..
@noobenstein Iron lung is the solution used usually for high altitude sickness with negative baritric pressure!
Rosarie Aprill Andrade that it terrifying that is against her human rights and I’m sure a lot of these abuses have gone on I hope and pray she will be fine and have no side effects may the Lord Jesus bless and keep her safe 🙏❤️🙏
Andrea Carol Taylor My 30 year old niece is going through something similar right now. She tested positive with the Coronavirus. She tried to escape the hospital to go back home to be with her husband, so the doctors decided to put her on a ventilator because they said that her lungs are already damaged cause my niece refused to get intubated. So now we’re waiting to see what’s gonna happen to her.
Respiratory Ventilators are killers. 80 % of all patients died in New York who were put on a ventilator with Corona-Virus! Instead use Drugs like Diamox (Acetazolamide) and treatments like pure oxygen! Drugs like Diamox (Acetazolamide) and treatments like pure oxygen will help against Corona-Virus . Diamox Tablet
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So danger ..be safe
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To me Looks like this ventilators help spreading the virus around the patient. This could be why doctors are getting sick, because machine just shooting viruses 🦠 in the air.
No?
LMETFY yes it looks like they get a spray into the air when the intubation goes in that’s why the need the visers
We are not adding humidfied O2 anymore (aerolization of particles)
NY_NJ Trail runner t Does this spread the viruses 🦠 in the air around a patient?
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Ventilators are the key resource to saving lives in the fight against the coronavirus , but they are useless without respiratory therapists !
M. J If they are useless without RT then surely some people lack the experience to use them properly or are quickly being trained and they are not saving lives for the record most people are dying on them if they were saving lives the survival rate would be much higher
not always. NYC RN here, I manage my own vent and extubate patients when they meet criteria. RT is not present. Different hospitals designate RT responsibilities to other staff, such as RN’s and APPs
Simply stay home and Enjoy
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The Zionist government of America has enough money and arms to gave to Israel but it has no medical equipment to its hospitals. God save the American people best wishes
So they should have one ventilator in stock for every human in the United States? 99.9% would go unused for 100 years. At the hospital where my sister works 36 people are on ventilators currently. But they own several hundred.
Are you seriously that ignorant, they do have money but, things can spawn out of nowhere. They don’t have enough equipment. Stuff takes time to make, especially when factory’s are slowed down
The process seems very unpleasant by all means, but if it saves lives that is all that matters.
ventilators almost cause massive lung damage after a few days… leaving you as a disabled person for the rest of your life. hospitals dont admit to this. vents KILL.
I’m assuming they put them to sleep or use a shot for numming the mouth. That would make anyone gag or vomit immediately and could cause even more serious problems for the lungs.
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and where does the oxygen come from? Space?
Yes the oxygen comes right from space! U are such a genius
An concentrator.
How about the liquid inside your lungs? How do remove it? The itchiness the wanting to cough
mark rush https://youtu.be/gk_Qf-JAL84
if the water is in your lungs. it gets removed with the help of a syringe and sonography scan they insert a syringe from your back between the ribs and remove water. from personal experience
They sedate you before the process. If you do feel anything, you wont remember when you wake up. Real life experience.
vents do not filter secretions …patients have to have a suction cath inserted in the airway to remove it.
The ventilator helps filter the liquid from the lungs. Most people are sedated for the most part so they don’t feel discomfort in the airway.
These machines are practically keeping people alive!
@nogoodwolf gosh that is scary
They’re killing people as well because if the tube gets blocked they don’t clean it and the people choke to death.
@noobenstein Of course they do it’s the quickest way to get rid of people so they aren’t hanging around too long, but you never know many of these people who weren’t put on vents may have recovered themselves.
God is merciful
vents kill people.
Or you could use a bicycle pump in a pinch.🤔
You got the basic thought work on it
Do they put you to sleep? This is what scares me the most because I am very claustrophobic. I’m afraid of not being to move speak or be in pain and nobody knows
Yeah we die once
@Sandra Rivera then they dont need one.
GG GAMING I was just asking I have seen people try and stop them from putting it in! And they are awake.
Omg how uneducated are people? If you were able to breathe on your own no ventilator would be needed. The ventilator is breathing for you!
Anyone panic and pull the tube out of their throat?
Why it seems crucial for corona patients in usa only as countries like Italy and China being drastically affected still don’t showing any such shortages.
@R K C I see.
@drzero7 actually in my feed i’am only seeing news regarding shortages in USA that’s why I was just curious .
Umm, Italy DOES have MAJOR shortages right now… and China did too so… Don’t know what this comment means.
Prop him up. Someone with breathing problems or pneumonia can’t breathe laying flat. It makes breathing so much easier.
The ventilator is breathing for them forcing air in their lungs. What are you talking about laying flat they can’t breathe???
R K C Italy has a SEVERE shortage of ventilators. I’m Italian and I invite you all to NOT spread misinformation. People are dying every day.
People on ventilators are not capable of breathing on their own so lying them down has no added problem to them.
@R K C I read a report of doctors in Spain describing how they had to explain to elderly patients why they were removing them from ventilators to be given to younger patients. Heartbreaking. The shortages are real in many countries.
@Whitney Pyant @drzero7 actually in my feed i’am only seeing news regarding shortages in USA that’s why I was just curious .
So a C-pap machine for people with apnea would not help the patient breeth better?
@Mi Les It keeps airway open BY propelling air.
No, a CPAP just keeps the airway open
It doesn’t propell air
Only for the rich patient.
Kayy Snow is he okay now?
@Baby Blue yen i am from a poor nation so i am fearing more about this virus
O.G. John Doe I don’t understand what that has to do with age or your presumptions about age and who I date. Completely irrelevant to the conversation. But thank you for your contribution, however I was aware that we all come here to do one thing. It is the one thing we all have in common. I pray you are never faced with what I’m feeling right now. Or maybe you’re too narcissistic to care so it won’t affect you anyway. Either way, I don’t allow myself to be perturbed by the disillusionment of random people on the internet. Best wishes to you.
@Kayy Snow people die. 🤷🏿♂️ when its your time to go it’s your time, we shouldn’t stop living because others are dying.
O.G. John Doe I’m 30 and your ignorance is deafening. Why does any of that matter?!